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lovely to see you I'm just going to stand here with a bit of paper because you're going to tell

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your story it's really wonderful to have Wendy sitting here I think one of the things that came

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out of the family night was obviously Wendy joining the senior leadership team and there

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an awareness that actually maybe not everybody knows all that much about you and and it was a

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great suggestion actually that maybe the next person on this is us would be Wendy so that she

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could share something of her journey how she's got to where she is today and all that God has

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done and so really the floor is yours I've got these questions to act as prompts but you'll need

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prompts okay so this is about your life your faith the lessons that you've learned along the way and

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I just wonder if you could start at the beginning and tell us a little about yourself your background

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what was it like growing up that kind of thing yeah well I'll say hi I'm Wendy Painter can you

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hear me okay? I'd much rather be doing this from the back row, just to say. But hey, that's

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me. I'm fairly, say quiet. I'm not quiet. I'm a more one-to-one person than a group

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person. But anyway, I'm married to Colin, so I'm the back row there. 37 years we've

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been married now. We've got two beautiful children, two daughters, who are both married

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now, I can say, because our youngest got married a few weeks ago. And you might see

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them her husband comes along to church and she occasionally joins him so yeah I was born in

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Coventry yeah sent there I was born there I was one of the first hundred babies to be born in the

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new hospital and the first one to be born in the lift because I was number seven apparently my mum

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had seven children I was the youngest of seven so they didn't quite believe her and this baby's on

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its way she was an experienced mother she knew what she was talking about so yeah I was born

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in the lifting in Coventry um yeah what sort of child what was your childhood or your teenage

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years like I was a bit of um again a quiet child I think I had a happy childhood there wasn't a lot

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of um love spoken you know you didn't hear oh I love you or bedtime stories it was I think probably

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because I was one of seven it was just get on with it really um although I'm one of seven I only

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really lived with two of my brothers because my mum was divorced she had children before then met

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my dad so I only really lived with two brothers so um yeah but no I'd say a fairly happy childhood

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um didn't like school didn't like rules didn't like but as I got to become a teenager got a bit

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more rebellious in a very quiet way I wasn't you know they say watch the quiet ones

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so I was a little bit rebellious on things like not turning up to my French exam because

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really couldn't be bothered to go back after lunch to do the French exam so school wasn't great for

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me wasn't wasn't I've never been an academic but anyway I progressed I went on to college

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and then continued on and did nurse training because I trained down at King's College in

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London did my nurse training there so I got there eventually but it was sort of like

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had to take my path really on

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the way I was told to go

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I don't like being told where to go

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no I can understand that

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what would you say that you enjoyed most

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about that season of your life

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what was the thing that stands out

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to you about that time

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I loved being away

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from Coventry

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from home

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I love the independence

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and just almost like trying to

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reinvent yourself you know when you're a teenager

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oh god be somebody all different

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and I can be, well, you know, a bit different.

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So, yeah, I did enjoy that bit of it.

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Finding out a bit more about myself

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and who I was away from my family, really.

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OK, great.

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Tell us about...

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So, obviously, this is your background.

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You haven't mentioned anything about faith

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being something that was in the background of your life.

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So tell us a little bit about your Christian story.

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How did... How was faith...

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Or how was Jesus introduced to you

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and how did you grow into, obviously, your Christian faith?

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yeah um i'd say i was brought up in a non-christian i would say it's a non-christian

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family there was a time when i think mom and dad dabbled in a bit of church life and i

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have vague memories of my dad getting baptized but it wasn't i wouldn't say i was brought up

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with in her faith family um it was when i went down to london and started my training and i

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was working with this this other student who was called jackie um she's gone to be in glory now

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but she was instrumental in bringing me to church she took me to there's a big church at

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the oval called st mark's it was an anglican church it had the biggest doors well it seemed

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to me at the time they're probably if i go back now they're probably tiny but these great big

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heavy wooden doors and she you know i kept talking to i think there's something about you what is it

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that makes you happy you just seem you're so different from everybody else i've ever met

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there's something about you of course she told me it was because she was a christian and she

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she knew Jesus and she invited me to go to church I said if I shut them doors I'm not going in I'm

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never standing at the door saying to the person you don't shut these doors do you bother in there

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you don't shut the doors are open you can leave at any point like okay I'll go again don't like

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to be boxed in or so I did go in and after several weeks of going there I um yeah sort of Jesus

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spoke to me and I gave my life to Christ and that was a defining moment for me it was you know I

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was looking for a different way of life and and i i got pointed to jesus and accepted him so yeah

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and i've been walking with him ever since uh as we all know for those of us that have been walking

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with god for a while life's not always easy is it yeah you might have god in your life but

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i always have this this image of like you know life has its ups and downs doesn't it but

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that Jesus is the one

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that is the constant

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and I can honestly

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hand on heart

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sit here and say

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that's so true

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that Jesus has been

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my constant

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throughout life

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do I need

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can you not hear me

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it's not working quite right

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is it not

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I sound really loud to me

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no

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have it right up there

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okay so

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so your faith

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has your faith always

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you said it's been

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a bit like this

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and which is

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this life

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yeah this is what life does

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and Jesus has been

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this constant

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Have there been seasons, because you said that from the beginning you followed him,

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but have there been seasons when you struggled or had questions or, you know, kind of asked that question,

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why or where are you in the middle of all of this?

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The magic button. Now I know.

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Do you want me to ask the question again? Okay.

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You said the question is, has your faith always been straightforward?

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Have there been seasons when you've asked?

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yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm human I live life I live it in this world yeah there have been seasons when

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I have questions and things um after we got married we married a few years and we moved with

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Colin's work we moved down to Nailsy and I loved it down there it was beautiful it was so nice it

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was it was a bit too middle class if I'm quite honest but you don't really like when you're in

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it it was just nice and comfortable and it was like really cozy and life life was good you know

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we had a young daughter

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Rebecca and then we had

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Jen and then we had Rebecca

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and life was good and then Colleen's work

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decided they wanted to move him back up

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to the Midlands

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I really didn't want to go because I just loved where we lived

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it was near the seaside

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it was just beautiful

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but anyway we're obedient and moved back up

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and the only

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positive about that was that I got to spend time

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with my mum and dad who were

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ageing a bit in years

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and they got to spend time with the grandchildren

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so we hadn't been here very long

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and my mum, I had a phone call from my dad

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one morning saying mum's really not very well

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so we phoned an ambulance and she had meningitis

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and we were told that she had a couple of hours to live

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that her brain was actually cloning over

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which is, once that's happened, that's it

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you're saying goodbye

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I'd say I stood by her bed and prayed

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I didn't realise, I stood by her bed and shouted at God

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I think, are you kidding me?

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You've brought me, you've taken me from this lovely place,

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brought me back here.

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The only thing I wanted to come back for was to be with my parents.

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And now you're going to take it.

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I said, come on, God, this isn't on.

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I really did plead and beg with him.

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And anyway, she recovered.

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That's my miracle, that she recovered.

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And the other miracle was about it, she never smoked again.

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My mum smoked 40 cigarettes a day for most of her life.

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But in that time of being in a coma,

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she completely forgot that she smoked oh wow we kept joking about putting nicotine patches on the

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wall she was unconscious but anyway uh but she made it she came through and i had a few not many

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more years because then she had a massive stroke and died but we had a couple of years with her

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which which was nice yeah so that was uh one of those times where you know you question thinking

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really god what what's going on um but yeah and the other time i guess was with my with my father

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as well he had he developed Alzheimer's and was quite poorly um and I guess that's that's the one

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time that I can honestly say I as if God was sat right next to me and said to me you know that

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audible voice of God is like because I was pleading again for him to die actually because

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he was in so much pain and it was the opposite prayer please God take him um and uh he God just

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said to me he said you know I knew the day that I brought him into this world and I know the day

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that I'll take him to be with me and that was like that shut me up as you can imagine it was like

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okay God you're in control I get this now I get this and he he passed away the next day peacefully

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so yeah so thank you for that um so how would you say your relationship with God has changed as

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you've gotten older I think it's changed in I I'd like to say I do trust him more but there are

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times when say i'm human and you think you think i trust him and then you think why am i doubting

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um but i i think yeah i think it's just seeing his faithfulness when you look back

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over the years you see actually god you know he turned up every single moment in my life

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from the small little things that you think you know i've lost my keys i can't find this or

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whatever you know we pray pray for car parking spaces everything you just bring it to god

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from those tiny things right through to the the major things of you know like really big thing

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isn't it death in the family it's losing your parents is a big thing so right all the way

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through I look back and I see God's hand upon it all and where he's led us as a couple as a family

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we didn't have an easy time with my pregnancies I was very very poorly with my pregnancies in

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hospital for months at a time actually ended up on the ward I used to work work on because it was

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it affected my liver so much so i ended up on my own ward but yeah it wasn't it and for colin it

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wasn't an easy time was it god really tested us didn't they and in that time so okay what is the

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most um what is the most important lesson do you think or lessons that life has taught you or your

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faith has taught you i mean you've mentioned a couple of them already you know i love that when

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you said about um about your dad how god spoke to you and said you know i i know the day i brought

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him here and I know the day that I will take him and so that was yeah that was wind your neck in

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kind of thing yeah definitely just putting words in your mouth but I mean is there any other lesson

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that you think actually that's kind of been like the backdrop to my life I I yeah that's what I've

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learned I think with I'm very much a people person I think God's taught me to to look beyond what you

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see in front of you that and try and see people through jesus eyes because that's um you know

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i've always i think one of the questions is something like what would your family and

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friends say about you it'd be like you know i'll talk to anybody we used to go to the supermarket

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shopping and i'll be chatting away to the cashiers and colin would come out where do you know them

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from i don't know what yeah i'm very much a people person i think god's showing me that

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you know sometimes we can be a bit judgmental of people you know put my hands up I can be sometimes

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and actually I really try I think God's teaching me to you know life isn't black and white it's

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not always straightforward and to try and see people through his eyes really um so yeah I think

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that's probably one and you know just know that he's faithful he's so faithful no matter what we

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go through he's there might not see him might not see what he's doing but he's there I mean

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just a thought that came to mind and I don't want no examples or anything but would you say that

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that kind of it's a gift really to be able to see people as God sees them have there been times in

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your life where you have you have made a judgment about somebody and God has surprised you in that

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you've then seen them as God sees them and it's like wow that's never what I would have imagined

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uh can't think of anything specific no but but yeah it is i mean i know particularly when i

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started working with christians against poverty and it was quite easy to walk into because we

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used to go into the homes all the time that's that's where we met people so you would walk

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into all sorts of different homes and and you know see these massive like tellies on the wall

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and you know all this expensive and you think okay but you're in debt up to your eyeballs and

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light yeah but I think God's shown me that you know you can't judge you can't judge um you just

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got to love just got to love yeah and just see them as he sees them so obviously one of the big

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questions I think from people here this morning was yeah how how was your journey or what does

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your journey look like when you came to MCF how did MCF yeah feature on your radar uh yeah well

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we we moved up to sheffield about five years ago and that was a whole nother story and journey in

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itself and uh they have you know you expect god to take you in a certain way and then things don't

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go quite how you thought they would go um so yeah so we we moved up to sheffield five years ago we

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actually arrived 10 days before our our um first grandson was born which was a bit close for comfort

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for me but there we go um and we started going to st thomas philadelphia in the town center in

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sheffield because our our daughter and her husband went there and we were trying to it was just after

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covid so we were trying to get them back into church and we thought actually if we just quick

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text on the morning saying oh just going to church this morning will we see you there sort of yeah

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sneaky little things that you do as parents um so yeah so we started going there and we were happy

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there um just to say in our before we moved up to sheffield we were in our previous church for

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20 odd years weren't we and it was home it was our spiritual home it was where we made those

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really good friendships that will last a lifetime um so this this was a big move for us we liked it

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at philly we we felt welcomed and everything but the turning point was when we did the alpha course

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and we were traveling backwards and forwards like trying to get there for like six o'clock was just

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impossible and how many sets of traffic lights colin 28 sets of traffic lights we had to go

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through to get to philly from where we live so we thought this is crazy we need we and we'd always

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been fairly local to our church so we thought we need to start looking and to be honest can i say

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can i really be really honest be really honest when we first looked at the website we thought

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no we're not we didn't even look at it because we thought no we're not going there but it's

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changed since it has changed it's amazing it's an amazing website amazing um so do you know what

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this looks really let's give it a go um so we and instantly i think we thought yeah we could

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this this feels like us this feels like we could sell this it's a you're a bunch of amazing people

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who were so open and honest and humble i mean the leadership i can't say i'm on the leadership map

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i think you guys are so humble and so real and that's what really touched me it's not about i

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I mean, Nick even did it this morning.

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We were talking about communion.

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You know, there's so many different ways that we've got to do this

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and it's got to be blessed by so-and-so

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and it's got to be before it touches your lips.

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No, Jesus wouldn't have done it like that.

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So I think you guys, we, us guys, do it the way, you know,

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Jesus would have done it.

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And that's what I love about this place

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and that's why we feel so at home.

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And your heart for the community and about being real with people

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and seeing people's lives transformed.

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it's uh it's yeah it's it's what jesus is about isn't it it is what jesus is about it is what

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jesus is about just a couple of um further on questions from that you recently joined the

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senior leadership team um how are you feeling about this new season and and it's early day so

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i mean but yeah what are you feeling about this new season and and yeah well i've got i've got

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two words and i think which one do i say first i think i've got to say excited first because it

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is exciting scary was the other one but uh yeah it is exciting i mean i have been on leadership

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before but it was very different it was within the baptist structure so there was a lot of

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structure to things which i i do i do quite like structure i do like structure and organization

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and so i struggle a little bit sometimes if i'm honest but it's good because it's good to be

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challenged isn't it and i think as i get older it's another thing god's showing me that actually

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be open be open to to learning and to being challenged and to be because sometimes we can

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get to a certain age i think oh well i've done that i've like god choose me in that and yeah

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that bit of my life's over and i'll just sit back and no you're never retiring god's kingdom do you

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there's always something to do so yeah i'm excited um to be to be serving god in this way and serving

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you guys on leadership but uh it'll be in his strength not my own that's what i need to keep

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reminding me but yeah fighting and um thank you for that um probably the last question um

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if you could sit down with your younger self um what would you say to your younger self

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I think I'd say to um live out the fact that you know God's faithful that um one of my favorite

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verses um is in in Joshua 1 verse 9 it says you know be strong and courageous you know the Lord

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your god is with you wherever you go and i was actually given that verse um my friend jackie who

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brought me to the lord her mum did a little tapestry thing for me cross stitch i'll still

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have it up in our house because when i left london and moved back to the midlands to marry colin

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um i was given this little tapestry and that that's a very you know no matter where you go in

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life that god's there but to go back and live it because i haven't always perhaps believed it and

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lived it but to know that truth of actually he's always going to be there we're going to pray for

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you now um and i think the last question is as you look ahead what are you praying for in your

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own life that we could say amen to um as we pray for you and colin uh this morning yeah i mean i'm

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sort of looking to as you say we're grandparents now and you want to bring up that next generation

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of christians don't you to so yeah so good to pray for my family um that they will um come to

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know the lord and for myself really that i'll just continue to to be open to his leading and his

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guiding and you know you never finish he's not finished with me yet and just to become sounds a

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bit christian but to become more christ-like because at the end of the day that's that's

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what we want to do isn't it we want to become more like him so yeah good thank you very much

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thank you let's pray let's pray father i want to thank you for uh wendy wendy and colin i want to

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thank you for their journey the story of how wendy came to know you thank you for that journey and

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and the fact that they are with us uh now and today thank you that you have called them to be

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with us thank you that they are part of our family and we thank you for this transition as

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well into into leadership and we just pray father it is exciting and there is an awful lot that is

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that is very exciting but there are things that are scary along the way and i pray

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for wendy and for us lord god that you would give us the grace and the courage uh to do what is right

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before you and to walk with you lord god and i pray father that i can just hear it in wendy's

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heart desire for her children and for her grandchildren to know you and i pray as colin

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and Wendy live out their faith courageously and quietly. Lord God, I pray that you would

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use them to show to their grandchildren and their children just the faithfulness of God

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over generations, Father. And I pray that they would see, Lord God, the fulfillment

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of the promises that you have for their family over their lives. Father, we just pray for

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them and continue to fill them with your Holy Spirit, continue to pour your grace into their

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lives, Father, and grant them great wisdom, we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Thank you very much.
