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Amen. Good morning, everybody. So we are back in John this morning, having had a few weeks off.

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Well, it seems like a few weeks anyway. So we're in John chapter 7. If you've got a Bible,

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I encourage you to try and follow it. As Mike said, the passage is a little challenging

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to get to grips with. So we're going to read it first and then go through it a little bit

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verse by verse to try and understand it and unpack it for us today in 2026.

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but just by way of context you remember hopefully some of the stuff that we've talked about in

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recent weeks if we go back to John chapter 5 we talked about Jesus healing that guy on the sabbath

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the man that had been paralyzed for over 30 years and as a result of that the Jewish leaders of his

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day grumbling that he healed somebody on the sabbath and we'll come back to that in today's

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passage and then a little bit after that we get into John chapter 6 because we're looking at the

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gospel of John and his account of the life of Jesus and in John chapter 6 we came across the

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feeding of the 5,000 years quite well-known miracle five loaves two fish and feeding all

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those people and having loads left over and we talked about that and then straight after that

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we got the story of the disciples crossing the sea of Galilee in the boat and Jesus coming walking

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across the water to them in the middle of the night and the challenges around that that

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presented and we went through that and then when they land on this other side of the sea of

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Galilee we saw how Jesus taught the people of the time and how actually his teachings became hard

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for them and a lot of his disciples fell away and decided that they couldn't follow Jesus and so we

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get to John chapter 7 which Johnny talked us through a few weeks ago and at this point we

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start we encounter this feast of tabernacles or feast of booths nothing to do with our worship

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leader this morning. But we're going to encounter this today. And actually, the whole of chapter

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seven is actually about what happens when Jesus goes to this feast. But let me just read from

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verse, I'm going to start reading in verse 10. So what's happened at the beginning of chapter seven

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is Jesus is saying, I'm not going to Jerusalem and Judea because they're going to try and kill me.

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But then his brothers say, why don't you go to Jerusalem and do your miracles there?

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even though at the same time his brothers don't believe he is who he's saying he is so it's kind

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of interesting dynamic going on there so but Jesus tells his brothers he's not going to go

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up to Jerusalem to this feast so his brothers leave and go off and the thinking Jesus is staying

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behind in Galilee so in verse 10 of John chapter 7 we read this however after his brothers had

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left for the feast he went also not publicly but in secret now at the feast the Jews were

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watching for him and asking where is that man by jews here it means the jewish leaders who were

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plotting to to kill him because they don't like what he's doing they say where is that man among

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the crowds however there was a widespread whispering about him some said well he's a good

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man others replied no he deceives people but no one would say anything publicly about him for fear

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of the jews not until halfway through the feast did jesus go up to the temple courts and begin

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to teach. The Jews were amazed and asked, how did this man get such learning without having studied?

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If only that could be true of all of us, right? That would be great, wouldn't it? Jesus answered,

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my teaching is not my own, it comes from him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do God's will,

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he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. He who speaks

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on his own does so to gain honor for himself but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him

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is a man of truth there is nothing false about him has not moses given you the law yet not one

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of you keeps the law why are you trying to kill me you were demon possessed the crowd answered

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who's trying to kill you jesus said to them i did one miracle and he's referring back to that healing

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of the guy on the sabbath that had been paralyzed for 30 odd years i did one miracle and you

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were all astonished yet because moses gave you circumcision though actually it didn't come from

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moses but from the patriarchs that's abraham isaac and jacob you circumcise a child on the sabbath

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now if a child can be circumcised on the sabbath so the law of moses may not be broken why are you

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angry with me for healing the whole man on the sabbath stop judging by mere appearances and make

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a right judgment okay right then so so what's he's talking about so as i said his brothers

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have tried to persuade him to go he say i'm not going and then actually as we read there jesus

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goes in secret to this feast of tabernacles or this feast of tabernacles also known it is known

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as the feast of booze or the feast of ingathering was one of three great pilgrimage festivals of

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the jewish year so it's good to have a little bit of background so we kind of understand a little

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bit more of what Jesus is talking about here and what John is telling us and this festival ran from

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the 15th to the 22nd of the seventh month of the Jewish calendar and every male was required to

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attend and during the festival they lived in booths hence the feast of booths which were made

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out of palm trees our boughs and branches and leaves of palm trees and sacrifices were offered

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every day for the eight days and I think I worked out there was 199 animals were sacrificed

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and a whole mass of grain offerings as well and on the last day the eighth day there was a big

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celebration everyone came together and we'll come back to that again in a minute and the it was it

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was a thanksgiving for the provision of god you know a little bit like we used to have harvest

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time thanksgiving in this country you know thanking god for the provision of the year this

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was thanking god for providing for them for the year but it also had a historical context because

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they were looking back to when the people of Israel were going through the wilderness and

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God had brought them out of Egypt and they spent those 40 years living in booths in the wilderness

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you're very popular today living going through the world as 40 and God provided for them so again

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it's hard for us to grasp that because we're not great on celebrating our history and owning our

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history and rejoicing over stuff from thousands of years ago but in their culture in that time

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in that society it was a big part of what they all did and a big part of their national

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identity and so yeah so we get to verse 10 and Jesus goes secretly so let's just go through this

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verse 11 to 13 so the Jews who don't wrong chapter let me flip the page verse 11 to 13 now at the

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feast the Jews were watching for him and asking where is that man among the crowds there was a

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widespread whispering about him some said he's a good man others replied no he deceives people

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but no one would say anything publicly about him for fear of the Jews so as Jesus goes up to this

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festival the Jewish leaders are on the lookout for him because they want to get him they were

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they're looking to trap him ultimately they're looking to kill him because they're not happy

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with what he's doing and yet even amongst the crowds there's this strange split view

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about what they think about jesus some say he's a good man some say he's a deceiver and it's the

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same is true today isn't it there are lots of different views about jesus and we've talked

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about this before already as we've gone through john it's interesting here with two almost opposing

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views see jesus is and should be divisive sometimes we water him down to be so nice

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gentle jesus meek and mild and we misinterpret what that means and we water him down but jesus

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actually is divisive and has that effect on people and it's also interesting that some say he's a

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good man some say he's a deceiver but i hope we've learned already that he's neither right if you

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remember i think chris was speaking it must have been chris because there was a c.s lewis quote

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when you know c.s lewis describes how jesus does not give us the option of thinking of him as

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just a good man or of thinking of him as a deceiver he is either truly the son of god that

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has invaded this planet 2 000 years ago or is something far far far worse he doesn't leave open

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those options that are in the middle and yet at this point in time the crowd are thinking well

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what is he who is he what's he like but also we read that no one speaks up for him for fear of

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the authority so the crowd are mumbling and whispering about about him but no one dares say

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anything publicly for fear of the authorities and i just observed that in every generation

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the people of god have to learn this in their own setting will we speak up for jesus or will we not

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for fear of our family for fear of our schoolmates for fear of peer pressure for fear of

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our neighborhood and yes even for fear of the society in which we live or for fear of our

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government and every generation of the church has to answer this question will we do that will we

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speak up it's also interesting uh to note that you know they won't speak up and yet this feast

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we're going to read later on in chapter seven not today but jesus we read that on the last and

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greatest day of the feast that eighth day jesus stands up and says if anyone is thirsty let him

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come to me and drink and streams of living water will flow out of him by this he meant the holy

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spirit which he will pour out roll forward a few a couple a bit of time into acts chapter two and

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that holy spirit is poured out and we move from from a from a people that will not speak up for

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fear of the authorities to discovering men and women that have encountered this holy spirit that

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Jesus has poured out standing up with boldness and proclaiming Jesus is the saviour of the world

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such a transformation brought about by the move of the Holy Spirit we got all of that to look

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forward to so then carrying on verse 14 not until halfway through the feast did Jesus go up to the

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temple courts and begin to teach the Jews were amazed and asked how did this man get such learning

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without having studied so he's gone up to this festival secretly and then halfway through so

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he gets like day four and he kind of steps out and he doesn't just do it subtly he goes right

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to the place where the hubbub is where it's all happening and he goes to the temple and he stands

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up and he starts to teach he stops being in secret and comes at front and center of everybody's

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attention and starts to teach and there's this immediate reaction to jesus that the people are

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amazed at what it is he has to say you see normally to stand up and teach in the temple

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you would have to have served under a rabbi for 10 years you would have done all sorts of learning

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but jesus has done none of this and here he is teaching not just with such knowledge not just

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head knowledge but teaching with authority and teaching in a way that these guys have never

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heard before and yet you know he's not even been to university he's not done the course on how to

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communicate with passion he's not done the course on how you do this interaction when you're trying

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to get a message across none of it and yet here he is teaching with such wisdom and with such

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authority because he is God the source of all truth that is Jesus who we worship and so they're

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asking these questions how can he do that how can he stand here and say this what isn't he just some

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carpenter guy from from from some back of beyond how can he stand in the temple in Jerusalem in

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the center in front of it and bring such wisdom and authority and actually you know we have the

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same question today in our world how can this Jesus be true how can this Jesus be someone who

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speaks with such authority. Now for that generation that we're reading in John chapter 6, it's a

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religious question because they are a religious society and Jesus is challenging their religion

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massively. For us it's not a religious question in our society, it's a question of ownership.

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If what Jesus is saying is true, then he owns you and he owns me and that is a big issue for us

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because we don't want to be owned we want our own way right so it's a it's a massive issue today

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just as it was then although the reason for it is slightly different in our culture and in our

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society carrying on verse 16 jesus answered so he's answering him he's getting the message that

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they're kind of asking these questions how can you do this so he answers them jesus answered my

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teaching is not my own it comes from him who sent me if anyone chooses to do God's will he will find

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out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own he who speaks on his own does so

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to gain honor for himself but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth

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there is nothing false about him so jesus states his case for why he is able to speak with authority

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into people's lives of why he has this wisdom about life and what it is about and why he's

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able to do this and three things that he pulled that he brings together here in these couple of

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verses first of all from scripture so he says my teaching is not my own it comes from him who sent

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me so he's saying from scripture he's saying i'm not making this up what i am bringing what jesus

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is bringing is not some new teaching what jesus is bringing is not something new but is merely a

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continuation of what god has already said in the past and he's talking to an audience who will know

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the old testament who will know what god has said theoretically in the past and what jesus is saying

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I'm not bringing anything new I'm bringing what the one who sent me has already said because Jesus

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has been sent by his father by God and he's saying I am simply bringing the same message that God has

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always said so that my father has always said to her you go back through the pages of the old

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testament you discover as we were singing earlier and as John read earlier for us there's a message

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of grace and of mercy and redemption and of love and God's desire for a people of his own that

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comes through the pages of the Old Testament

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and what Jesus is saying, that is my

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message, there's nothing new

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about what I'm bringing, look at

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scriptures, look at the Old Testament

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and what God says through it, look at the promises

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and prophecies pointing to the

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Messiah coming and see that it's

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about me and he's saying I'm not bringing

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anything new, I'm pointing

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to my Father, I'm bringing his

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message, I'm bringing

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his message and I'm only speaking

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what God the Father has

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already said through those scriptures. You see, if we study this book, if we take time out to read

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it and digest it, and sometimes, like in this passage this morning, it's hard, right, to do that,

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but if we take time out to study it, then we will begin to see the voice and the authority of God

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through Jesus in scripture from beginning to end, because this gives us the ultimate authority of

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who God is and what he is about and if anybody says to you this is what God says this is what

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God about the only way you know that's true is by digesting what is in here and we hold this up as

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the yardstick the plumb line the thing that keeps us true to what we're doing and so we grapple with

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it I think Spurgeon was a Baptist minister in the 19th century and he said this quote in the bible

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we have the perfect library

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and he who studies it thoroughly

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will be a better scholar

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than if he had devoured

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the Alexandrian library

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entire

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the Alexandrian library was one of the

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old wonders of the world

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that had 700,000 books

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so he's saying the person that studies

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this will be a better scholar

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than if he read all of those

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we might adapt his quote today

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and say instead in the bible

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we have the perfect library

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And he who studies it thoroughly will be a better scholar

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than if he knew everything in ChatGPT and Copilot and Gemini.

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Yeah?

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Seriously, that's what he's saying.

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Because it's in here, all right?

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And grappling with it is just so important.

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So Jesus is saying, I'm only bringing what is already in here.

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I'm not bringing something new.

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Second thing Jesus says, why he speaks with authority and wisdom,

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is by action.

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He says, I'll just flip the page again, excuse me.

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He says, if anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out.

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In other words, Jesus ties his teaching and his authority to lived experience.

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It's not theoretical what Jesus is talking about.

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It's not, oh, that's a nice thing, but in the meantime, I'm just going to get on with real life.

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He's saying the words of Jesus are absolutely relevant to you and to me

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every hour of every day of the whole of our lives.

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no matter what situations we are going through.

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If you were here last week,

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you heard a brilliant story from Janet

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sat at the front here

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about the reality of that

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and the relevance of Jesus

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through lived experience

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which involves pain and hurt

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and upset and anger

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and yet there is a God who is true

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who supports and sustains

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and has a plan and a purpose

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and Janet expressed that far better

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than I will this morning.

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But Jesus is tying his words

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to lived experience.

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he's not talking about some theory that's removed from reality he's basically saying try me

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test me out there's a psalm that says taste and see that the Lord is good and Jesus is saying

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come on then try me out and then you will discover that what I am saying is true and then you will

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discover this is why i speak with authority see if we choose to pray if we choose to read the

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scriptures if we choose to pursue god's plan for our life jesus is saying then we will discover

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jesus you are right way beyond my wildest dreams and he will get a hold of us and we will get a

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hold of him and and it doesn't happen straight away right it takes time for light to dawn you

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Because we're all impatient, we want it to happen like that.

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And we want to go home and just flip the pages and think, oh yeah, and the light bulbs come on.

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Those moments happen from time to time.

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But other times it's like a toddler learning to walk.

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We're reading the Bible and trying to get to know Jesus.

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And we fall over and we collapse and people need to encourage us again and pick us up and say,

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yeah, come on, you can do it. Come on, come on, come on, you can do it.

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Just like a toddler learning to walk.

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And so Jesus ties his teaching to real life.

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and that's why he speaks with authority and the third reason he gives us is by his own personal

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witness he says this he who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself but he who works for

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the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth you see Jesus motives in doing this are

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selfless he's doing his father's work his father has sent him God the father has sent him and he's

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doing his work. He's not working for himself. His motives are selfless. He's putting himself at risk

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as he stands up and teaches others. We've already read at the beginning he didn't want to go there

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because they're going to kill him. And he knows that's going to happen. He knows that's part of

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the plan. But he puts himself up front and he puts himself at risk. But more than that, when he is

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teaching he is always pointing back to his father he is here to bring glory to god the father that's

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what he is about he's always pointing people to his father and his teaching points us to god it

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doesn't point us to himself you see the son has come to bring glory to the father and not to

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himself and when we worship jesus and when we sing our songs to jesus jesus saying father can you hear

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that they love you they worship you he is pointing us to his father and so his teaching brings glory

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to the one who sent him and not to himself and this is really important because humanly speaking

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we struggle with this massively right so so so so when i'm teaching even when we're going through

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this passage this morning and i'm here i should be hopefully trying in some way to point people to

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Jesus and not to me, right? By how I'm doing this. If you think I'm pointing it to me, come and let

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me know because I need to deal with it, right? But we should be following pastors and leaders

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and teachers that are men and women who are pointing us to Jesus and not pointing us to

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themselves, right? And sometimes that is not the case because their character or whatever else,

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they're drawing people to themselves. And that is a sad thing. I remember in our previous church,

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working with the pastor there he always said we're trying to build church away from ourselves

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as the leaders so that if we go the church carries on and we're pointing people to Jesus and you know

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it's the same here you know Nick and Erica are away so we can talk about him right so so but

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they're trying to build something that is away from themselves and not about themselves but it

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is about Jesus and pointing people to Jesus so that when we're not here the church carries on

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in Jesus name because we love him and it's about him and we're pointing people to him

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yeah and you know it's a massive thing because we live in a world where the entertainment industry

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is massive and it's completely the opposite everything you and I watch on telly so much

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or on social media is all about people raising their profile that's a phrase isn't it got a rate

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if you want to get on at work got to raise your profile you know we heard that a few times and

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But this is completely the opposite way around.

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Jesus is completely the opposite way around.

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And in the church, it needs to be completely the opposite way around.

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It's not about ourselves.

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It's about pointing people to Jesus,

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who is pointing people back to the Father.

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Let's carry on.

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Verse 19 and 20.

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Has not Moses given you the law, yet not one of you keeps the law?

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Why are you trying to kill me?

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And so the crowd, who don't realize that, say,

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You are demon-possessed, the crowd answered.

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Who's trying to kill you?

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So Jesus knows the religious pride that the people have in the law of Moses,

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that they think they're so good because they're following it.

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And yet he points out none of them is able to keep it in its entirety.

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And yet not everyone in the crowd understands that,

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so they cry out, he's demon-possessed.

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And then in verse 21 we read this,

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Jesus said to them, I did one miracle, and you're all astonished.

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Yeah, because Moses gave you circumcision,

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though actually it was from the patriarchs,

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you circumcised a child on the Sabbath,

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So if the boy is born and he's eight days old on the Sabbath,

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they circumcise him on the Sabbath.

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And so he says, now if a child can be circumcised on the Sabbath

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so the law of Moses isn't broken,

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why are you angry with me for healing the whole man on the Sabbath?

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He calls out their pride in the law of Moses,

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but their hypocrisy in doing something on the one hand

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that is in obedience to God,

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but then getting angry with Jesus for healing somebody completely.

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on the Sabbath, and he exposes their religiosity and hypocrisy, and we need Jesus to continue to

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do that today, right, to expose our own religiosity and hypocrisy, and in some ways, you know, we are,

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all of us are like the Jews of his day, you know, we're not, we don't have pride necessarily in how

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we do religion, although that can pop up from time to time, but we have things in our own lives that

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we're proud about, and that we like to stick to, thank you very much, you know, we have things in

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their own lives that result in us spending time covering up and wearing masks and hiding things.

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And then Jesus comes along and he starts to expose that. And he starts to say, you know,

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you don't have to live like that. You don't have to have that cover up. And he cuts through that

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and offers a better way of life. You see, this was a nation that was proud of its ancestry,

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proud of the way it did things, proud of how it followed the law of Moses. And yet in doing that,

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they had lost sight of the very God that was behind that law in the first place what a tragedy

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what a tragedy you know and how often in clinging to the things that we like in our life and in our

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lifestyle and our lifestyle choices do we hold on to them and actually as a result we're kind of

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hiding God from ourselves and we're missing what he's able to do so Jesus will cut through that

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if we let him and if we have ears to hear but finally verse 24 a couple of things to say about

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this he says at the end stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment you see

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jesus is saying that merely following the law of god but missing the reality of a loving merciful

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god behind that is completely missing the point you know it's nuts if we get so hooked up about

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how we do church about how we we must have our 30 minutes of worship no offense and we must have

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this and we must have that and it's got to be like this and then we get argy-bargy about it you know

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we're in danger of losing the whole point there is a loving merciful God behind all of this which is

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why we're here in the first place and that's what these guys have done and Jesus is calling that out

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and so he's saying stop judging by superficial things stop judging at face value stop judging

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at just looking at something and think oh that's wrong that's not right but actually start to think

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about what is behind that and it's interesting Jesus not only taught this here but he modeled

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it himself who we saw earlier in chapter four when he encountered the Samaritan woman there's all

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sorts of face value issues in that interaction with the Samaritan woman at the well. There's

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issues of race and nationalism, you know, Jews and Samaritans don't talk to each other. There's

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issues of gender and sexuality, man and woman don't talk to each other in that situation.

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There's issues around her lifestyle choices. All of those things are obvious and face value stuff

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that Jesus could have dived into, but he doesn't. He looks for the root issue that's going on there

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in that case about her identity we're going to see in the next chapter when we get to chapter

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eight about the the woman that the the religious leaders drag before him and say we found her

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caught in adultery the law says we should stone him what do you say talk about a face value judgment

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right face value judgment and jesus is saying don't do that so you know jesus is thinking

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look and be on that you know where's the man for crying out loud in this situation who else amongst

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you is a sinner oh he's not looking at face value he's getting he's thinking behind that beyond that

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and he's encouraging us to do the same and actually asking us to do the same in that example

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sin is sin there's no there's no hierarchy stop looking things at face value and even in his

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parables he does exactly the same thing he uses them to teach people to stop thinking at looking

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at situations at face value and get beyond that you know the parable of the good samaritan again

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is another story but thinking about beyond tribalism thinking beyond being just proud

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about the group of people you're a part of and getting beyond that and realizing everyone is

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our neighbor i'm working that out and this is this is challenging right because you know we like the

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Jesus bit that says nice things, I mean like the Jesus

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bit with the Holy Spirit

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feeling and the emotional stuff

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but this is heart stuff that Jesus is touching

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on here in our lives

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this is crunch stuff

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that you and I have got to learn to stop

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being men and women who just look at things at face

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value and start to see beyond

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that, I don't know if we

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often put that in the Christian gospel but Jesus

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is bringing it out here for us to see

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of letting go, of

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letting go of things like

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as I say use the word tribalism but you know mixing with people that are not like me or not

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like you learning to do that you see for me I was the realization recently I talked to Angie about

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this that when I was growing up for a variety of factors I kind of came away with a sense of I just

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mix with people that are like me which in my case was you know white middle class going to

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further education etc etc but not only do you just mix with those people you avoid others you don't

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trust other people that aren't like you. And I can't even now explain about how that

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was arrived at, but that was the reality. You see, then the problem is you become a

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Christian. And then the problem is God adds you to the church. And then the problem is

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you read the churches about men and women from every tribe and nation and tongue and

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skin colour and dialect and social standing and earning capability and blah, blah, blah,

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blah blah blah and oh my word i'm suddenly in a full room full of people that are completely

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different from me and jesus is saying you gotta love him and it's the same for all of us you know

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it's a beautiful thing about the church you know if we could really nail this what a model it would

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be in society today about how to get on with people that are just not like us and work that

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because jesus is is telling us and all of that comes from you know not looking at things at face

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value but thinking beyond learning not to judge others um you see when you're in pastoral things

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you always learn pretty quickly that when someone comes to you the issue is never the issue

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what's at face value is never really what's going on but so when somebody comes to edge on a thursday

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and they've got a question about benefits you know and we're able to answer that then we discover

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pretty soon oh there's also this or oh there's also that and could you help me with this problem

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and could you help me fill this form out?

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What is presented is seldom the issue

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and we need to be men and women who learn what it is

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not to judge at face value

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but get beyond that.

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And I guess one of the most practical places

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where we can all put this into action

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is in the area of gossip, right?

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We all do it.

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We all get sucked in.

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Let's not pretend we don't.

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But this is such...

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Gossip is always based on face value.

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It's never based on what's really going on.

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It's always based on face value.

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and it's such a wildfire that can spread and cause so much damage and yet if we get beyond

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thinking at face value then the way to think through that for gossip is when you hear stuff

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think is it loving is it true is it necessary if you can't answer yes to all those three questions

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squash it easily done i hope all right getting to think beyond face value i think is something

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jesus calls us all to and to work at that together let's pray lord jesus we just want to thank you

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for your word today that is alive and active but more than that jesus we want to thank you for you

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lord we want to thank you for what you've taught us about yourself we want to thank you jesus

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that all you say and do points to the father and there's that we're your people this morning in

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your church here today lord we want to pray oh god come and have your way in our lives you know

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where we're at Lord with these things we've been talking about

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you know where we're at Lord with

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judging at face value or not

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you know where we are, we're bringing honour to ourselves

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or not and we just pray Lord God

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how we need your help

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in Jesus name, Amen

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Amen, Mike
