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and today's passage, I guess, is one of the reasons it has that reputation.

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But deep and meaningful is not the same as simple and straightforward.

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So there's a lot in this passage,

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and I think we are going to be stretched.

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And in fact, I think that's a good thing to remember,

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that God doesn't want us to sit in what we already know.

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He wants to stretch us beyond where we are now.

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and that's kind of my prayer for this morning.

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I'm going to set the scene a bit

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and then Sarah's going to come and read

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but let's have the next slide

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which will have the first few verses on it

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which kind of set the scene

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and it does of course follow on from last week

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and the story of how Jesus healed somebody

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who had been ill for I think it was 36 years

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or was it 38, a long time

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but he did it on the Sabbath.

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So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus

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for breaking the Sabbath rules.

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But Jesus replied,

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My father is always working, and so am I.

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So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder

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to find a way to kill him,

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for he not only broke the Sabbath,

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he also called God his father,

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thereby making himself equal with God.

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And the first question to talk about is,

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well, why is the Sabbath such a big deal

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for the Jewish leaders?

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And I think there are at least a couple of reasons that we can say that.

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First of all, it's an identity marker.

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You know, keeping the Sabbath shows that you're a faithful, believing Jew,

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not like these faithless Jews or these pagans who don't follow God.

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And to some extent, it still serves like that for Orthodox Jews.

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So it marks us out.

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We are the people who keep the Sabbath.

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And if you're not keeping the Sabbath, then that's a big problem.

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It would be also true to say that the Jews understood correctly

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that the reason for the exile, the great tragedy that had happened

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to the Jewish nation, was caused by sin.

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And although they were sort of back in the land,

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to some extent they were still in exile

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because they were still being ruled by people who were not Jews.

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And so keeping the law was a way of kind of saying

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that they were kind of trying

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extra hard to keep the law

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because not keeping the law was

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a part of the problem. And they'd actually

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kind of built a fence around the law

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so that you wouldn't accidentally stray

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and break the law.

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They created, in the case of the Sabbath, 39

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extra rules to

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decide what was breaking the Sabbath and what

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wasn't. And one of the rules was

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don't heal anybody on the Sabbath

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unless it's a matter of life and death.

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Well, Jesus had healed somebody who'd been sick

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for years. So presumably

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it wasn't a matter of life and death. So

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Jesus is kind of in hot water.

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And then, kind of changing

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the analogy, I would say that having already

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been in trouble for breaking the Sabbath rule,

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Jesus answers that

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accusation

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by pouring petrol on the

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flames. He makes things worse

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straight away. And we've got to understand

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that Jesus knew that that was what

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would happen. He

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says, my father is working

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and so am I. And

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And they say, well, this is getting worse.

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Not only is he breaking the Sabbath, he's also making himself equal with God.

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And that's partly why, you know, if he just said the Father or our Father,

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that wouldn't have been so bad.

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But he talks about my Father.

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And he says, my Father is always working and so am I.

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Well, the Jews believed, understandably, that they were to rest on the Sabbath,

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but God actually worked all the time.

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So, you know, people are born and die, and creation is sustained.

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So God works, actually, seven days a week.

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So when Jesus says, you know, my father and I are working all the time,

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he's making himself equal with God.

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That's what's happening.

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So you can see why they were so indignant, and he made the situation worse.

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Let's have the next slide.

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So effectively, Jesus is on trial here.

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Now, you know, it's not a formal legal process, but actually, this is the start of something that will actually lead to his crucifixion.

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This is the charge.

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He's on trial for blasphemy, for claiming to be God.

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That's what the accusation is.

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And it's probably worth saying here that, you know, if Jesus hadn't thought he was God,

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if Jesus thought, well, I'm just a prophet or I'm just an ordinary guy,

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now would have been a very good time to say that.

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But Jesus kind of doubled down on it.

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You know, he pushes it further, and he will say things that really reinforce the charge against him.

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And blasphemy is a very dangerous thing.

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I mean, you may know this, but actually, even today, there are something like, in Pakistan,

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something like 2,100 people have been accused of blasphemy in the past 10 years or so.

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Many Christians, also Hindus and some other religions.

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and 89 people have been killed in mainly mob attacks in Pakistan against somebody accused

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of blasphemy and there are over 40 people on death row in Pakistan accused of blasphemy

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and I think that context probably it gives the sense just how dangerous this was in Jesus day

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also because it's both about formal charges but it's also about what the mob might do

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So being accused of blasphemy is a dangerous place.

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But I think there's something else here.

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Raniela Cantalmessa, if I pronounced that right,

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probably was an Italian theologian,

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once said something like,

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the battle today is around Jesus.

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And what he meant by that was,

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there are many people today who, you know,

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the idea of spirituality, maybe even God,

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is kind of okay, and they've got a place for all that.

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But it's Jesus and Jesus' claim to be God

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and Jesus' claim to be the unique way to God that causes offense.

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So there's a trial still going on really around who is Jesus

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and is his claim to be God justified or not?

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And that demands a verdict.

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Sarah, would you like to come out and read the passage for us as a whole

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and then I'll carry on having set the scene.

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...claims to be the Son of God.

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So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus

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for breaking the Sabbath rules.

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But Jesus replied,

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My Father is always working, and so am I.

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So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder

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to find a way to kill him.

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For he not only broke the Sabbath,

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he called God his Father,

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thereby making himself equal with God.

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So Jesus explained,

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I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself.

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He does only what he sees the Father doing.

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Whatever the Father does, the Son also does.

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For the Father loves the Son and shows him everything he is doing.

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In fact, the Father will show him how to do even greater works

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than healing this man. Then you will truly be astonished, for just as the Father gives life

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to those he raises from the dead, so the Son gives life to everyone he wants. In addition,

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the Father judges no one. Instead, he has given the Son absolute authority to judge,

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so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the

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son is certainly not honoring the father who sent him. I tell you the truth, those who listen to my

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message and believe in God, who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for

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their sins, but they have already passed from death into life. And I assure you that the time

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is coming. Indeed, it is here now when the dead will hear my voice, the voice of the Son of God,

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and those who listen will live. The Father has life in himself, and he has granted that same

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life-giving power to his Son, and he has given him authority to judge everyone because he is the Son

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of man. Don't be so surprised. Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will

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hear the voice of God's Son, and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to

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experience eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience

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judgment. I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just,

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because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will. Great. Next slide, please.

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So, Jesus' explanation, as I said, does kind of double down on it. The son can do nothing by

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himself. He sees only what he sees the father doing. Whatever the father does, the son also

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does. There's something here both, there's something very intimate about this picture,

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isn't it, about the whole relationship between the father and the son working together. There's

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also humility from the son to the father. I tell you that the son can do nothing by himself,

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he only does what he sees the father doing. And yet there's also equality in the relationship.

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let's look at the humility bit first

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the son can do nothing by himself

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this is not the son acting independently

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doing his own thing

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he's doing what the father is doing

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in a way you and I could identify with that first sentence

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I could say truthfully

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if any good comes out of my sermon today

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it will be because God is at work

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But the last sentence there, whatever the father does, the son also does, is quite extraordinary.

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None of us could say that, not remotely.

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The archangel Michael couldn't say that, whatever the father does, the son also does.

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That's an absolute claim of equality.

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He's saying he shares in the father's work.

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Let's have the next slide.

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for the father loves the son and shows him everything he's doing in fact the father will

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also show him how to do even greater things than healing this man and and love is at the heart of

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this it's a loving relationship um i mean one way it's kind of inadequate but maybe give us the idea

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um we know that jesus was a carpenter um and actually the word i think probably means like

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somebody who's a builder, so he may have worked with stone as well as wood. But anyway, that's

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what he's doing. And we also know that Joseph, his father, was also a carpenter. And that's not

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unusual. People would kind of learn your trade from your father. And you might have imagined that

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in the carpenter's shop one day, Joseph is showing Jesus how to make things. And Jesus is

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listening very intently to what Joseph has to say to him.

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And in some ways, then, you'd say,

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well, you know, surely the father's kind of senior

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and the son's junior.

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And that's sort of true, but they're still equal.

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It's still father and son.

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The status is still the same.

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And that's kind of what I think we're seeing,

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if any more tense,

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is how they're working together in everything.

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In fact, if you remember at the very beginning of John's Gospel, how it starts,

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in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God.

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Actually, there was a normal word for with that John didn't use.

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He actually used a word that would normally mean toward.

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So the Word was with God, and the Word was toward God.

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And I'm sure that wasn't an accident.

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And that's kind of what this picture is showing us.

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It's the father and son working together.

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The son looking at the father, the father looking at the son,

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and they're working together.

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And what might be the greater works than healing this man

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who'd been disabled for, you know, 30-something years?

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Well, we possibly can think of some miracles that we think would meet that.

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And, you know, bringing Lazarus back to bed, maybe the storms on the sea feel like bigger miracles.

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Probably what John is thinking of, though, he's thinking of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

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That's what he's thinking.

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Next one.

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For just as the Father gives life to those he raises from the dead, so the Son gives life to anyone he wants.

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In addition, the Father judges no one.

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instead he has given the son absolute authority to judge so that everyone will honor the son

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just as they honor the father anyone who does not honor the son is certainly not honoring the father

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who sent him it's interesting to watch how jesus claims to be god you know he doesn't have a t-shirt

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on saying i'm god and wander around galilee saying can i look at me what he does do is talk about

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himself in religion, God, in a way that shows the two together, you know, that Jews understood

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and prophets understood.

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There were two things that were kind of unique to God, and one was giving life, and the other

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was final judgment.

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So those are God roles, and yet here we see the Son given those roles.

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So the father is sharing his right to rule with the son

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and sharing his right to give life with the son.

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And then it says, so that everyone will honor the son

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just as they honor the father.

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I know this would never happen,

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but just imagine that a leader in the church

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came and stood at this podium and said,

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I want you guys to respect me in the same way you respect God.

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I hope we would be on our feet in a second shouting, no, no, no.

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Because the respect and honour that's due to God is not to be given to anything except God.

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So there's a glory and respect that's due to God alone.

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And if we give it to anyone else, that's blasphemy and that's idolatry.

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But when it says we honour the Son as we honour the Father,

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we're saying the Son and the Father

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are both part of the Godhead

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let's have the next

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the next slide

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I tell you the truth

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that's a phrase that Jesus

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you may have noticed that coming up a few times

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Jesus is a way of emphasizing

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what he's about to say

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so Jesus is not kind of

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quietly saying these things

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he's firmly saying these things

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I really want you to get this

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across so that you really understand

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this, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. Again, we

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notice how easily listening to my message and believing God are part of the same thing, a part

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of the same thing. And we are as Christians called, and what being a Christian means is that we

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listen to the message of Jesus Christ, listen intently to the message of Jesus Christ,

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Hang on every word of Jesus Christ and believe in the God who sent him.

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A missionary called John Patton, who was a Scot who came from Dunfreeshire, I think in the 19th century, went out to the New Hebrides and he was working with a tribe who were cannibals.

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And he was seeking to translate John's gospel into their language.

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and he found a problem and the problem was they didn't have a word for belief or trust

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because actually that was a culture that valued deceit and trickery and and so well how can you

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translate John's gospel if there isn't a word for belief or trust and so he was struggling with this

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and then one day he had a bright idea and and his assistant who was a one of the local guys came

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into the room and John Patton leaned back in his armchair and put his feet up and he said to the

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assistant. So what am I doing now? And the assistant used a word that meant to rest your

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whole weight on something. And that was the word that John Patton used for faith when he translated

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John's gospel. And that's what it means to believe in Jesus Christ. It means to lean our entire weight

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on Jesus Christ, to put our whole trust in him. And certainly that first sentence, eternal life

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there is not another way of saying going to heaven when you die, because here he's talking

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about the here and now. It's very clear. He's talking about the here and now, and he's talking

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about passing from death into life in the here and now. Eternal life starts, new life starts when we

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believe in Jesus Christ. Some Christians, I suspect, kind of think of the Christian life in

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this world as being a bit like in departures at the airport. You know, you've gone through security,

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but now basically you're kind of hanging around waiting for the main thing to happen. That's not

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a New Testament picture, that, you know, eternal life and our calling to live for Jesus Christ

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begins now. Next slide. And I assure you that the time is coming, indeed it is here now,

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when the dead will hear my voice, the voice of the Son of God,

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and those who listen will live.

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The Father has life in himself

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and has granted that same life-giving power to his Son.

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Even though he's talking about the dead,

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he's still talking about now.

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We will get on to what happens at the end,

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but he's still talking about now.

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And you might think, because he says, indeed, it's here now.

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And we could be thinking of something like Lazarus.

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Probably, actually, Jesus is using the idea of death to life

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to describe what it means to become a Christian in the first place.

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And that was certainly how Paul understood it.

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At the beginning of Ephesians chapter 2, Paul said,

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once you were dead in your disobedience and your many sins.

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And then you get to verse 4 and he said,

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but God who is so rich in mercy,

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even though we were dead because of our sins

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he gave us new life

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through Jesus Christ

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so this idea of passing from death

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to life is what Jesus

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is talking about

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those who listen will live

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and then verse 26

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is very interesting, he said the father has life

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in himself and is granted

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that same life giving power to his son

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actually other translations

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just say and has

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given the son life in himself too

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kind of different way of saying

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the same thing

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let's think about it this way

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you and I all had a beginning

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there was a time when we were not

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and I guess if we had a biologist

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here or something they would say well

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actually you know

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your life began when

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a cell was first lised

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you could quibble about

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some of the details but actually life begins

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when the heart starts beating

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but what's very clear is

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there's a moment when life comes

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and it wasn't there before.

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So there's a starting point to our life.

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And also it's a starting point

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that we had nothing to do with.

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We certainly didn't cause it

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and we find ourselves alive

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where we wanted to be.

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So life is kind of done to us.

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But God has life in himself,

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which means there's never been a time

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when God was not.

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And life is part of the essential characteristic

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of God in the same way that love is. So God is life, and he can give life to other people.

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And he says, and Jesus has got the same thing. So Jesus also has life in himself. In the beginning

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was the word. From the beginning was the word. There never was a time when Jesus was not. And so

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So, here, you know, the very kind of being of who God is, is being attributed to the Son.

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Next slide.

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And he has given him authority to judge everyone because he is the Son of Man.

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And first of all, kind of as I already said, on good authority, it says it in the Bible,

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judgment belongs to God and shall not the judge of all the earth do right.

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So, God is the one who does judging.

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but here it is given to the son of man

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and very happily

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even though we hadn't talked about it beforehand

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it might got us all reading

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that passage from Daniel 7

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particularly verses 13 and 14

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when it talks about one

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like a son of man

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and that

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I think links to that

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but I think there's also something else

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in there

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you sort of wonder whether sometimes

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a criminal's been in

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not before a trial.

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They've been tried and they've been found guilty.

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And they must, I think, sometimes find themselves thinking,

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well, yes, I'm being guilty and I've been convicted.

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But I'm looking at the judges and the jury

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and all the court officials and the barristers on both sides.

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I'm thinking, you know, if your life had been half as tough as mine,

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maybe we wouldn't be so different.

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I'm sure people must feel that.

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It's all very well for you to judge

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because you've had an advantaged life.

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But let's think about Jesus, because, you know, part of the meaning of the incarnation

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is that Jesus experiences life in its awfulness.

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We've just got to think about the circumstances around the end of Jesus' life.

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He's betrayed by a close friend.

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His followers all run away.

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He then ends up in a trial that's an entirely crooked trial.

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It's only ever going to have one outcome.

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He's convicted.

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He's taken before a judge who knows perfectly well he's innocent,

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but still sends him to his death.

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And he's then tortured slowly to death while people stand by and jeer.

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You know, Jesus is familiar with life in its awfulness,

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and he knows what injustice looks like,

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because he himself has experienced injustice.

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Who better to judge the world?

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Who would be fairer?

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who would be more understanding and compassionate than Jesus Christ?

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Next slide.

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Don't be surprised.

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Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves

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will hear the voice of God's Son, and they will rise again.

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Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life,

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and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.

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Relatively quickly, because I am keeping a vague eye on the clock.

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And my house backs onto a graveyard.

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And we'd not long moved in.

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And a Christian friend came to stay.

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His name was Noel Moules.

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And Noel said, you know, he said,

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even some church people are a bit funny about that sort of thing.

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Don't think I'd want to live that close to a graveyard.

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He says, I think, he said,

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I think houses next to graveyards should be worth more

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because when Jesus returns,

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you'll get a spectacular view of the graves being opened.

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So here he is talking about the future return.

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But then verse 20 might be a question, he says, and they will rise again.

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Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life.

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And those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.

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You'd say, well, wait a minute, in verse 24, he said, we're going to experience eternal life if you listen to my words and believe in me.

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And now it sounds like, well, it's the good who are going to experience eternal life, which is true.

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And I think that the short answer is both.

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But I think what the answer looks like is this.

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We do experience eternal life by listening to Jesus Christ and believing in God.

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But the proof that that's genuine is that our lives change.

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The proof that it's genuine is that our lives change.

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And that's the consistent message of the New Testament.

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Next, I can do nothing on my own.

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I judge as God tells me.

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therefore my judgment is just because I carry the will of the one who sent me again there's that

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intimacy there's that submission but still with equality but you know sometimes and we can

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experience this in an organization or a country it feels like the people at the top pass rules and

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laws that they want everybody else to keep but they themselves aren't always as careful about

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following the rules. So you think that, you know, during the whole COVID thing, the parties in

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Downing Street kind of spoke to that. Everybody else has told that these are the rules. But

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actually, that wasn't quite how it was playing at home. And right in the middle of the Lord's

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prayer, we have Jesus saying, your will be done. So we're encouraged to say, your will be done.

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This is not a case of one rule for you and another rule for them,

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because Jesus himself expresses perfectly, your will be done.

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He is doing the will of his Father,

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and we are called to join with him in the doing of the Father's will.

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Next slide.

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I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher,

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but I don't accept his claim to be God.

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Well, I think there are lots of people who would say that.

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In a sense, it's kind of the official position of Islam in a way that, you know,

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Jesus is a great prophet, but obviously he's not God.

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I guess a lot of Jews would say that, and certainly many atheists would say that.

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Why doesn't it work?

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Well, I think there are a couple of reasons.

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First of all, anybody who says, you know, give me the same respect that God gets,

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or I can do anything that God can do,

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those are not the words of a great moral teacher.

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You think, well, if that person's sincere,

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if they really think they can do anything God can do,

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then they're nuts, and not just a little bit nuts.

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I mean, they're ready to be sectioned under the Mental Health Act

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and locked up nuts if they really believe that.

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Or if they don't believe it, if they know it's not true,

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but they're saying it anyway,

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is there a kind of whole power thing going, this abusive power?

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I'm claiming to be God because then people will give me stuff

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they wouldn't give me otherwise.

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So it's either abuse or it's insanity.

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Here's how C.S. Lewis put it many years ago.

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Next slide.

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You must make your choice.

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Either this man was and is the son of God

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or else a madman or something worse.

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You can shut him up for a fool.

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You can spit at him and kill him as a demon

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or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God.

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but let's not come up with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher.

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He's not left that open to us. He did not intend to. Next, I've got two more slides to go, and I

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think, even though I'm going to do them, a little bit of history, very quickly. In the fourth century,

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a priest called Arius became very popular, had a big following, and in Arius's head,

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Arius' head, Jesus

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is kind of almost

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God, but maybe not

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quite. He's God-like

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or he's God-ish. So

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in some senses he's God, but not

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a full deal. Maybe he's

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the most important thing that's ever been created,

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but he's not quite

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100%.

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So he said on one occasion, there was a time

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when the sun was not.

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So in other words, you know, Jesus is

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created. And

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another leader at the time called

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Athanasius and other people who

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supported Athanasius disagreed

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profoundly with Athanasius. Not what the Bible

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teaches and actually it undermines

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so much about our faith

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and

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it went on for most of the

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century but

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they had two big councils

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one in 325 in Nicaea

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and one in 381

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in Constantinople when they

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they kind of sorted all

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this out. And the Christian

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position, this is an extract from the

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Nicene Creed, was to

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say, we believe in one Lord, Jesus

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Christ, of one

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being with the Father.

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He's

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fully God. He's 100%

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God, was what they were

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saying. And that's been the position

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of Orthodox

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Christians ever since.

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Funnily enough, what Ari has taught is pretty much

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what JW's, Jehovah's Witnesses,

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believe today. So, you know,

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You're kind of God-like, but not the real deal.

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Finally, why does it matter to us today?

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You see, if Jesus is fully God, if Jesus is 100% God,

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then we can say, if I look at Jesus, I know what God is like.

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There's a story told, it's a true story.

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A padre in the Second World War called Tom Torrance

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was called to attend to a young soldier

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who was dying on the battlefield in Italy.

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And the young man had only a very short time to live.

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And he said to Tom, he said,

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Padre, is Jesus really like God?

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Or where was it?

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Is God really like Jesus?

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And I guess behind that maybe was a thinking,

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well, I like the Jesus I've seen,

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but is there another God behind that

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who is a more severe, different God.

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And Tom Torrance, who, by the way,

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later went on to become a professor of divinity,

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he said, yes, God is exactly like Jesus.

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God is exactly like Jesus.

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There is no hidden God behind Jesus.

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And that's a very important truth.

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Only this God can be love.

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This needs a little bit of thinking about.

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So if your conception of God is a bit more like probably Jews understand it or Muslims,

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that God is one and only one, and that's what you have to see.

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So God is kind of alone in being God.

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But he cannot be love.

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He might be loving, but he cannot be love.

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And it might even say that God's desire to create the world is because God is needy.

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God needed something to love, so he created a universe to have something to love.

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But you see, the Christian conception of God, which we've very much been following,

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is that God has been eternally a love affair of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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The Father loves the Son, the Son loves the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit loves...

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So love has been going on eternally between the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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So God is truly love.

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And the reason that love is so important in the Christian faith is because that is what God is really like.

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And the reason that God created the universe is not out of inadequacy, it's out of overflow.

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It's that God has so much love to give that he wants a bigger family.

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That's why he's called us.

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He's calling us to join us in his love affair.

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Finally, and then I will shut up and hand back to my...

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Jesus shows us how to be children of God.

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You know, we can't think that my being a child of God

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is about me doing my best to live my life

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and asking God to help me.

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And that's not necessarily wrong,

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but what Jesus shows us in this

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is that being a child of God

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is about dependent obedience.

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Dependent obedience.

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We're called, in a sense, like a small child

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to put a hand into the hand of God,

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to hang on tightly to work with him moment by moment dependent obedience that's what we're called to amen
