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right good morning everyone let's have the first slide up so um so this morning's um we're

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continuing with the series on john it's the second of our series on john's gospel and and today

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actually the passage isn't directly about jesus it's about john the baptist and in particular

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john how john answers the question who are you and as we listen to um john being interrogated

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really, and the answers he gives, kind of my hope and prayer is that that will help

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us answer that question for ourselves. Because, I mean, John is a deeply fascinating character,

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and the answers he gives are really counter-cultural and interesting. But, you know, the who are

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you question is such a big one, isn't it? And if you try it, as I did at some point

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of the week. If you Google the phrase identity crisis, you get lots of stuff up. There's

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a sense in which in our culture there are a lot of people struggling to find answers

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to the question, who am I? And there's lots of kind of resources and self-help and all

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sorts of stuff offering answers to that. But the question is a really big one. But let's

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have the next slide. So the question, the context is, the question is, who did John

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the Baptist think he was? And the background to this is that John has been preaching and

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holding open-air meetings up and down the Jordan River, calling on people to make major

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changes in their lives, to be baptized, and to receive the forgiveness of sins. And people

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are coming to him in large numbers. So John is kind of like the celebrity preacher of

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the moment. And he's come to the attention of the religious establishment in Jerusalem.

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And so they've sent a delegation to question John. And it's not a particularly friendly

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delegation. They're not coming with open minds, but they're trying to pin John down, and they

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question him. It's almost like a trial. And it's like he's being questioned by the barrister

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representing the other side. But that's the kind of context. But let's hear it firsthand.

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So I think Sarah or Cornelius, Cornelius, Sarah's going to read it for us. So let's

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listen to the word. Thank you, Sarah.

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This was John's testimony when the Jewish leaders sent priests and temple assistants

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from Jerusalem to ask John, who are you?

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He came right out and said, I am not the Messiah.

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Well then, who are you, they asked.

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Are you Elijah?

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No, he replied.

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Are you the prophet we are expecting?

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No.

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Then who are you?

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We need an answer for those who sent us.

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who do you say what what do you have to say about yourself john replied in the words of the prophet

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isaiah i am a voice shouting in the wilderness clear the way for the lord's coming then the

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pharisees who had been sent asked him if you aren't the messiah or elijah or the prophet

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it, what right do you have to baptize? John told them, I baptize with water, but right here in the

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crowd is someone you do not recognize. Though his ministry follows mine, I am not even worthy to be

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his slave and untie the straps of his sandal. This encounter took place in Bethany, an area east of

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the Jordan River where John was baptizing. So that was good to hear the word directly.

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So let's have the next slide. So John's being interrogated. I see it's like a trial and they're

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saying, well, who are you? And they ask you, are you the Messiah? Are you Elijah? Are you the prophet?

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And each time we get from John a resounding no. And that's, I guess, in order for me to know who I am,

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I have to know who I am not

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and there's also something about

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they're trying to put a label

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on John

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and he's refusing to be labelled

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one of the dangers

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of this whole identity

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question is that

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we can kind of end up with an identity

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that's been put on us by other people

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and if that's a positive identity

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we can suffer from imposter syndrome

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we feel other people are saying nice things about me

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that's not how I feel about myself but other people put negative stuff on us that can grind

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us down and John is refusing to be labeled by them and that's because of course he's accepted

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the label given to him by God but we'll come to that in in a minute. So the first question is

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are you the Messiah? Now, Messiah really meant the anointed one. And in Israel, when a king

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was crowned, they were anointed. So to be the Messiah is to be the king, and not just

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any king, to be the great king that was going to bring great freedom and prosperity to Israel.

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So they kind of say, well, are you claiming to be the top dog? And he says, no, I'm not.

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And then they said, well, are you Elijah?

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Now, Elijah is this hugely important, mysterious, and powerful prophet from the Old Testament.

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But there's also been a prophecy about Elijah in the book of Malachi that says,

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before the Messiah comes, Elijah will come back again.

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So they say, well, if you're not the top dog, are you kind of the person who's kind of pointing to the top dog?

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and again John says

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quite clearly, no I am not

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I'll come back to that one in a minute

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and the third one is kind of similar

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this is taken from

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some verses in Deuteronomy 18

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there was something

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Moses said, he says, there will come

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another prophet like me

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now, you know, Moses is one of the

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towering figures of the Old Testament

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so there was an expectation

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that somebody very important would come

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again and John says

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no I am not the prophet

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So he is kind of refusing labels.

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He's, in a sense, being questioned by them,

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but that's not going to shape his identity.

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And we'll just come back to number two for a minute,

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and I'll tell you the reason for that.

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So John says quite clearly, I am not Elijah.

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Now, the problem with that is that Jesus says he is Elijah.

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And you find that twice in Matthew and also in Luke,

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and Mark. So who's right?

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Well, I think the first thing we need to say, of course, is that

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John may simply have been wrong. We do not always

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John is not

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perfect. He doesn't know everything. So John may have been wrong.

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But I think maybe a better answer is to think about the context

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and of course they're trying to give him a label. So they're saying, who are you claiming

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to be. And actually, John's not claiming to be that. And he's not interested in labels or titles

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or prestige. He's thinking about something else. I think it may also be the case that when we look

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at what Malachi said and how Jesus quotes it, when they said John was to be Elijah, that's not

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necessarily meant in an absolutely literal way, that the same guy who was operating in

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the Old Testament has himself come back. It is more like, is somebody who very much looks

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like Elijah, is it the ministry of Elijah we're seeing again, rather than exactly the

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same person? And John the Baptist clearly does have that incredibly significant prophetic

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ministry anyway we'll move on right next slide please so having said he's not three things he

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then says I am three things and he says I'm a voice I'm a baptizer in water and I am unworthy

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and each of those is a little bit unusual and thought-provoking and it's good to be

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have our thoughts provoked by the bible isn't it and I want to spend a little bit of time on each

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of those. So let's have, let's look at the first one next and have the next slide. John replied

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in the words of the prophet Isaiah, I am a voice shouting in the wilderness, clear the way for the

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Lord's coming. And this is incredibly significant. The first thing it tells us about how John sees

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himself and about his identity is that John sees himself as belonging to something bigger than

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himself. You know, he's part of what God has been doing over thousands of years, spoken

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of by the prophet Isaiah. He belongs to a bigger story than himself. And in fact, John's

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identity doesn't come from inside him. It is actually given to him by God. And he describes

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himself as a voice shouting in the wilderness. I'm sure you've all had the experience, I know

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I have of, you know, you've been in some public place and somebody is like shouting stuff

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and possibly they've got, you know, mental well-being issues or drugs and alcohol or

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some mixture of that, but you've got somebody like shouting out and everybody's going,

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oh, what's going on there, you know. So a voice is only significant depending on the

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words are asked to say. And so John is a voice pointing to the word. And there's something

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very careful about the words too, because John's gospel opens with the phrase, in the

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beginning was the word, and the word was God, and the word was with God. And John doesn't

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even say, I am a voice. He says, I am the voice. He says, I am a voice. But he's like

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he's like a signpost

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isn't he? John is

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pointing at Jesus

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he doesn't say

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clear the way for my coming

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he doesn't say look at me

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he says clear the way for

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the Lord's coming, look at him

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and we

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absolutely live in the age of celebrity culture

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don't we? That kind of

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permeates all secular society but also

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sometimes can really

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permeate the church so celebrity

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is a big deal. And a lot of that celebrity is saying, look at me. And John's emphatically

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saying, look at him. And actually, that's how he answers it throughout this question

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and answer. But for all that, it's a powerful statement, isn't it? He is part of something

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bigger than himself. His identity is because God has called him, but he's not looking at

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himself. He's looking at Jesus. So let's look at the second of John's two I am. What

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what right do you have to baptize? And I guess this is a word, this is really about credentials.

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So the Pharisees who have been part of this group have been sent to interrogate John. So, well,

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you know, if you don't have this big title, if you're not claiming to be the Messiah, if you're

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not claiming to be Elijah, if you're not claiming to be the prophet, then what right have you got

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to go around baptizing people? You know, I mean, John's ministry was quite powerful. He's telling

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people to make major changes in their lives, to be baptized and to receive forgiveness.

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What right does John have to answer that question? Interestingly, John doesn't really ask that

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question. He doesn't answer that question because he's actually, he's saying, I think

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in effect he's saying, you're asking the wrong questions. In fact, you're questioning the

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wrong person. You're busy looking at me and asking who John the Baptist is. Never mind

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about John the Baptist, look at someone right here that you are missing. And that, again,

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is very important. You know, if you were going to a pub quiz on the Hebrew Bible, the

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Old Testament, you would have wanted the people from that delegation to be on your team. They

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knew it. They knew the stuff. They could have quoted. They knew the answers, but they didn't

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know God. And, you know, to be a believer in Jesus Christ, it's not about knowing the

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answers. It's about being surprised by the God who is there. It's about being open to

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what God wants to do in us. And actually, many of you will recognize, because we often

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say in prayer meetings, don't you, it says, well, two or more are gathered in my name.

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there am I in the midst of us.

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And actually, take him literally.

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Jesus didn't say, where two or more are gathered in my name.

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He said, where two or more are looking at my person.

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So when two or more people are focused their attention on me,

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there am I in the midst of me.

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But it's about God in the midst of us.

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God in the midst of us.

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And then John says, well, I baptize with water.

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And it's almost, again, him saying, well, listen, I just do kind of human stuff by human means.

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And if something really important is happening through this, it's not down to me, it's down to God.

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Actually, you could apply that to our whole service today.

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You know, we've come in and we've sung some songs and we've listened to some music

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and we've had some people share things and now you're listening to me talking.

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All of that's human stuff.

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But if something comes out of that, if something powerful happens out of it,

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it isn't because the people at the front have been anything special.

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It's because God has been able to use that.

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So all the time we should be pointing to Jesus.

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Let's look at the third of his I am.

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I am not even worthy to be a slave or untie the straps of his sandal.

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I'm sure most of us feel unworthy.

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some of the time, and some people probably feel it a lot of the time. And actually, I

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think that's healthy. I sort of was wondering about this, obviously, I don't know the answers,

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but I kind of figure that, you know, that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin rarely wake

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up feeling, I am not worthy. But that's not because they've got a healthy psyche, it's

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the opposite. They've got a kind of messiah syndrome, haven't they? So to some extent

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feeling unworthy is good. But I think sometimes when we're feeling unworthy, it comes from

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a place that isn't good. It can come from a place of, to be frank, self-pity. I'm unworthy.

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I'll be, oh, you know, poor old me. I'm useless. It can come from a place of despair. It can

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from a place, to be honest, we just spent

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too much time gazing at ourselves.

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But the way John answers this

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is a bit different.

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Because

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he's not saying I'm unworthy

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in a vacuum as I'm an unworthy

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person. He says

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I'm unworthy compared to him.

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So John's actually

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really looking at Jesus in all this.

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That's what he's doing. He's looking

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at Jesus.

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C.S. Lewis said that humility is a form of self-forgetfulness.

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And in fact, once he said, being humble is not about thinking less of yourself,

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when I was having a lower opinion, it's about thinking about yourself less.

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And John absolutely fulfills that.

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He's not really thinking about himself, he's thinking about Jesus.

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But he's learned that Jesus is the big deal.

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Jesus is what it's really about.

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Let's have the next slide.

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John told them, I baptize with water,

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but right here is one you do not recognize.

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There's a kind of comic tragedy about how they're missing the point.

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They're trying to label John and say, well, is he this, is he that?

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And John's saying, no, it's about somebody you don't recognize.

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I think this thing, though, about what John is really teaching us,

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and I think it is relevant to Christian leadership as well,

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is that, you know, it's not about me.

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It is about Jesus.

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And we need to keep being reminded of that.

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And, you know, sadly in our day, you know,

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all too often we hear a story about some famous Christian ministry

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that has come unstuck in some way.

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And you think, well, is part of the reason for that

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maybe that um that person started to think too much of themselves they become the deal maybe

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that's partly because other people have put that expectation on them you know they've had a

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successful ministry and other people are saying well you're fantastic and and some of that starts

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to go in a friend of mine was um got a job as a i think he would be a assistant minister or he was

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I think a young man at the time, and learning in a big Pentecostal church

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with a very kind of charismatic leader.

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And he said, one day this leader came in and said,

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well, if the people in this church are going to hear from God,

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God's shown me they're going to hear through me.

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That's how they're going to hear.

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They're going to hear through me.

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And my friend challenged him and said,

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that's not at all a healthy thing to say whatsoever.

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That's not right, mate.

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Anyway, the next day he lost his job.

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But, you know, so John the Baptist is so countercultural, you know, the big deal is

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not about me, it is about Jesus.

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Next slide.

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This encounter took place in Bethany, an area east of the Jordan River where John was baptising.

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I might be wrong, but I can't figure that there might be quite a lot of sermons that

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you could find or things read in books about the passage we've just been talking about.

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I just possibly wouldn't mention this, because we've kind of heard all the really interesting

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stuff, and this seems kind of down to earth. I think that's sort of the point, you know.

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Neither this passage, nor any other passage in the Gospel, starts with the words, once

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upon a time. This is about real things that happened in real places to real people. It

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is grounded. It's not about, you know, what's going on in some big spiritual dimension.

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This is happening here on earth. Next slide. I'm going to tell you about this picture.

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So my house kind of backs onto a graveyard,

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and I quite often go for a walk in the graveyard.

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And I have noticed more than one,

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a few of graves that have become

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kind of a little bit of a shrine to a football club.

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Now, this picture, I will tell you, is not one of those.

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And so I generated this on AI.

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Who would have thought it? But I did.

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But the reason for that was simply I didn't want to

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potentially cause offence

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by using an actual grave

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so maybe understand it

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but nevertheless I can assure you the word

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grave is maybe not quite as grand as that

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but very much in that way

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and what's

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wrong with it? Well I think

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gosh how sad

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to be blunt

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if the main point

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of your life, the thing you're going to be

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remembered for is

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your support for a football team

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a friend of mine actually became a Christian

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and part of his process was

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that he started to ask

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there's got to be more to life than this

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there's got to be more to life

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than this

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the trouble is in the west

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there's a kind of dominant

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culture of kind of godless

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materialism and if you follow

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that you end up with

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deeply inadequate

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and unsatisfactory answers

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to the question about the meaning

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of life and about who I am. It does not give answers that satisfy.

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But for all that, and I'll say a little bit more about that in a minute, this is not about

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saying that football's wrong, or, it didn't have to be football, it could be about, well,

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it was my family, or it was whatever it was, the dominant thing that my life was about.

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It's not about saying those are wrong, but it's saying they don't belong in first place.

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don't belong in first place. And part of what I say is that, you know, if we put first things first,

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then second things become healthier. Let's have a final slide. So the first thing to say is,

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you know, as a Christian, my identity is not something I find in myself. It is given to me.

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It is a gift, and I've become part of something that is bigger than me.

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You know, God purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son

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and adopted us into his family.

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And that is the most important thing I need to know about my identity,

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and it's the most important thing you need to know about me,

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that God has purchased me with the blood of his Son

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have been adopted into his family.

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And secondly, but related to that,

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you know, the big deal

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in life isn't about me.

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It's about him.

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And that should come, actually, as a great

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relief. It's not about

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me. It's about him.

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Later in John's Gospel, you can see what

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you know, imagine some of the pressures

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John might have been under, because he's

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a celebrity. He's this celebrity

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preacher. He's the one that everybody's going

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to listen to. In a sense, you know,

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in asking their questions of him

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are you the Messiah, are you Elijah, are you the prophet

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there's a sort of a compliment in there

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you know

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they didn't ask it about

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Chris Simpson because everybody would just laugh

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they're asking it because he is this

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kind of big dog

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and we know later

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that some of John's disciples started to say

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well aren't you kind of losing a bit of your prestige

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because Jesus has started

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his ministry and John famously

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replied but it was a cracking answer

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that he said, he must increase, I must decrease.

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And that's so important.

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But if we get the two first things first,

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if we understand that my identity is given to me by God

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and I belong to him, and that's the most important thing to me,

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and that fundamentally the story isn't about me, it's about him,

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if we put those first things first, actually second things,

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my love for my family, my interest in football, my interest in food,

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or whatever it happens to be, will be healthier and better.

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Let's pray.

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Father God, we believe that you are in our midst today,

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that you are among us.

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And Lord, forgive us if we haven't recognized you

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or if we're not recognizing you.

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Lord, we do want to be open to being surprised by you,

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to being touched by you.

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So, Lord Jesus, we exalt you today.

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Lord, you are the main story, and we look to you.

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But, Lord, I do pray for myself, for all of us,

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that we might know our security and our identity in Jesus Christ,

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that we have been purchased, we have been set free,

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we have been adopted, we have been brought into his family.

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And these are glorious truths spoken over us by God Almighty.

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And we're not the big deal.

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So, Lord, we praise you and we thank you for that.

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And we pray that you would equip us to live well and to live something, Lord.

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We might never be famous like John the Baptist, Lord, but we'd love a bit of that, Lord.

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We'd love a bit of his strength and his character, his total commitment to Jesus Christ, to be a signpost to Jesus Christ.

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So, Lord, give us a double helping of John the Baptist in Jesus' name.

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Amen.
